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Chat Transcript: Talk Notre Dame basketball with Tom Noie

3:30 pm, February 15, 2012

Tom Noie answered readers' Notre Dame basketball questions in a live chat. Read the transcript.

 Live Chat: Talk Notre Dame basketball with Tom Noie(02/15/2012) 
12:08
sbtnoie: 
Another perfect week for the Notre Dame men's basketball team - wins at West Virginia and at home against DePaul - pulls the Irish (17-8, 9-3 Big East) one step closer to the NCAA tournament.

Notre Dame shoots for league win No. 10 tonight against Rutgers - but it might not be easy. The Scarlet Knights are the last team to beat Notre Dame - 30 days ago today back in Piscataway. Notre Dame managed to do little right that night.

What will happen in the sequel?

Join our live chat about Notre Dame hoops now - just drop a question or comment and be sure to include your name and hometown. Easy way to spend your lunch hour - or hours.

Let's go.....
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:08 sbtnoie
12:13
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Have you had a chance to see Eric Karenda practice?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:13 Guest
12:14
sbtnoie: 
Guest:

Nope....we're not allowed to see practice....might give away some trade secrets. I have seen him warm up, shoot a few jumpers, get loose. Strong stuff. Kidding.

He looks like someone who might be able to help. He's said all along that he intends to play college basketball - and beyond. I believe it will happen.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:14 sbtnoie
12:15
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
What effect do you think the noise level of the Leprechaun Legion has on the team's performance? Were the Irish flat this weekend because the students were flat?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:15 Tyler
12:19
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Great observation. Absolutely I believe Notre Dame was flat because the student section was less than strong.

Look at it from the players' point of view - they've won five games in a row to come from nowhere for the chance to chase an NCAA tournament bid. DePaul is about as big of a rival, other than maybe UCLA and Marquette, that Notre Dame has in hoops.

And then go walk out of the locker room to warm up for Saturday's game and see a whole bunch of empty seats.

There's nothing better in college basketball, no matter the site, than a full house and a whole bunch of noise. Better yet - a full house for a team that's on a serious run like Notre Dame.

I had a Notre Dame student shoot me a tweet during the Marquette game, telling me to note how full and out in force the student section was for that game. My response? Any group can find their way to Purcell Pavilion for the games against Marquette and Syracuse. Get back to me after DePaul and Rutgers.

Never heard back after all those empty blue seats against DePaul. Hope tonight is not more of the same. The players will never say it on the record, but you can be sure it bothers them when they see the place isn't full.

There have been plenty of times this team has won despite the crowd. Saturday was one of them. The people that were there were good, but when it's listed as a sellout, you might want to have it actually be a sellout.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:19 sbtnoie
12:19
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
After seeing the Irish try and speed up DePaul, and not having the greatest result, do you think they stick almost exclusively with the burn offense the rest of the season? Their defense certainly picks up when they slow the pace.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:19 Tyler
12:23
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Not necessarily. DePaul may be in second to last place in the Big East, but that's a team that gives Notre Dame a whole host of trouble. Why? They have guys who can just break down defenders off the dribble and get to the basket. And they can score.

The Blue Demons don't have just one guy that can go get himself points. They have like three or four, and they want to play up-tempo. At some point, with DePaul playing loose and slicing Notre Dame off the dribble, the Irish were going to have to outscore them - that hasn't been the case during this run.

Other than maybe Syracuse, no team in the league has guys who can go get 15-20 without seemingly breaking a sweat. DePaul's a bad matchup, and even more so when its season is going down the drain - they're not going to run much offense, but they are going to score.

They were tough to guard.

Notre Dame will continue to mix the offensive pace and defensive looks the rest of the way. I would be surprised if either team hit for at least 75 tonight.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:23 sbtnoie
12:23
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
What will ND do on Senior Night? Proceed as if Tim and Scott are not returning?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:23 Tom, DC
12:24
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

As of now, yes, unless they hear from the NCAA. Mike Brey was hopeful to hear something about Scott Martin before the end of the month. The easiest way to go about it is honor them and let them have their night, and if one or both get a sixth year, so be it.

It's also the night that Adrian Dantley goes into the Purcell Pavilion Ring of Honor.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:24 sbtnoie
12:24
[Comment From DougDoug: ] 
Brey says Grant and Atkins are best guard tandem he has ever had. Your thoughts? A young Chris Thomas and a veteran Matt Carroll were pretty good.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:24 Doug
12:28
sbtnoie: 
Doug:

You could come up with a whole host of combinations - young and old - in terms of good guards. Carroll and Thomas were really good during the 2002-03 run to the Sweet 16, but Atkins and Grant probably have them beat as defenders.

I agree with Mike Brey on this one - Atkins and Grant are a unique combination, and will be for two more seasons. The way they can defend with their length is what sets them apart. They're really good, and they believe.

It reached a point in the DePaul game when both decided it was time to start making plays to win the game. Then they did.

Whenever the subject of Atkins and Grant surfaces, I'm reminded of the whole "Everett Golson has to play hoops" debate of last season. It may have sounded like a good idea at the time, but even then, when Grant was sitting out the season, Brey insisted that he had two really good, young guards who needed to play, and that there really wasn't much of an opportunity for Golson.

Now we see why.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:28 sbtnoie
12:28
[Comment From JoseJose: ] 
Tom, if Scott Martin is granted a 6th year the Irish would return the same starting 5. Add Sherman and Biedscheid to the mix , do you see Brey red shirting both Auguste and Burgett?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:28 Jose
12:31
sbtnoie: 
Jose:

Who knows what the rotation might look like next season.

Mike Brey is excited about adding the length and athleticism of Auguste into the mix. Burgett might arrive in June and prove he's worthy of immediate playing time.

What happens in terms of injury? Illness? If one of those guys had planned to sit out this season, they probably would have been pressed to play when illness and injury hit in November.

If Scott Martin returns, if Eric Katenda proves he can play, there will be discussions to be held and decisions to be made. The Irish bench will be as deep as its ever been under Brey, but he's still probably not going to go much deeper than eight, maybe nine guys.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:31 sbtnoie
12:31
[Comment From DaleDale: ] 
It looks like Coach Brey has settled into a six man rotation. Will they have enough stamina to carry them thru the Big East Tourney and NCAAs?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:31 Dale
12:34
sbtnoie: 
Dale:

Ahh, the constant question of depth waiting to be dissected. Notre Dame loses a game, that's going to be the first criticism - Brey doesn't play enough guys. The main guys are tired, etc., etc., etc.

Mike Brey hasn't "settled" on a six-man rotation. He's always said that what guys do will help determine how many of them play. Joe Brooks is the seventh man, but really hasn't done a whole lot to earn the trust of the coaching staff. Same with Tom Knight. They have had their moments where they've done something well, but also moments (turnovers, fouls) where Brey might not yet trust them.

With the type of style the Irish have played - limiting possessions, slowing the game - a short bench may not be that big of an issue.

I'll tell you this - it reached a point in the DePaul game, and early, when I felt a whole more confident in the six guys that saw the bulk of the minutes rather than going with Brooks and Knight.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:34 sbtnoie
12:35
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Pat Connaughton is certainly one of the fan favorites for this season, but has had a very roller-coaster-like year. What do you think he needs to do to ensure that his play is more consistent? I would argue that he needs to put the ball on the floor more. He has a fantastic shot, but people are going to dial in on it because he refuses to put the ball on the floor. He rarely dribbles.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:35 Tyler
12:37
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

That's maybe not his game. He needs to trust his shot and continue to shoot it when he's open.

Instead of putting the ball on the floor more and getting to the rim, maybe he needs to get himself an offensive rebound and stick-back.....run the floor and get something easy in transition.

Pat Connaughton's has shown signs of being a freshman, and that's only natural. But Notre Dame also hasn't lost since Connaughton was added to the starting lineup. Coincidence? Nope.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:37 sbtnoie
12:37
[Comment From WillieWillie: ] 
Tom, when is Demtruis Jackson going to commit to the Irish?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:37 Willie
12:39
sbtnoie: 
Willie:

All right, the chat is complete - we have our weekly Demetrius Jackson question, and again, one that has been asked and answered every Wednesday.

Nothing has changed - Demetrius Jackson will commit when Demetrius Jackson wants to commit. Could be in the next five minutes, could be five days or even five weeks.

What's the hurry? This college season doesn't hinge on a prep junior giving his word. Notre Dame likely has been nothing but upfront and honest about where Jackson stands in terms of the future of the program.

It's now up to Jackson to decide if Notre Dame is the best fit for him. Pretty simple.


Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:39 sbtnoie
12:39
[Comment From Brad from South BendBrad from South Bend: ] 
Barring any implosion on ND's part, they are going to make it to the Big Dance. Currently, Joe Lunardi has the Irish as a 7 seed facing a 10-seeded Purdue team. First, what are your thoughts on this match-up and secondly, is there any team that would not be a good match-up for the Irish in the 1st (technically the 2nd) round?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:39 Brad from South Bend
12:41
sbtnoie: 
Brad:

Still too early to concentrate on any and all talk about the NCAA tournament until this program can get to 11 league wins. Until that happens, Notre Dame could lose two, three in a row as quickly as the Irish have run off six straight wins.

Don't start worrying about the NCAA tournament. Worry about how Notre Dame can be better against Rutgers, a team that made the Irish look like babies (Mike Brey in today's SBT) the first time around.

Start dreaming about NCAA tournament seeds and bad things can happen.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:41 sbtnoie
12:41
[Comment From MikeMike: ] 
Is it just me every time ND plays at Home the Visiting team always in the 2nd Half there basket is looking at the student body..
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:41 Mike
12:42
sbtnoie: 
Mike:

That's by design. College teams prefer to run their offense in the second half at the basket in front of their own bench. That just happens to be where the student body is located.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:42 sbtnoie
12:42
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
It looks like it is down to Brey and Boeheim for Big East Coach of the Year, and Brey is very much on the radar (Brey-dar?) for National Coach of the Year. How much of an effect do you think accolades such as those have on recruiting?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:42 Tyler
12:44
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Huge. Who wouldn't want to play for the three-time Big East coach of the year?

If Notre Dame can get to 11 wins, Brey should be a lock to win league coach of the year a fourth time. National coach of the year? Maybe not. Notre Dame does have eight losses this season. It might be hard to nudge past Frank Haith for the job he's done at Missouri.

Still, if Notre Dame continues on its run, Mike Brey belongs in any starting five when it comes to discussion about national coach of the year.

That's a no-brainer.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:44 sbtnoie
12:44
[Comment From MikeMike: ] 
In order to free up roster spots and playing time, what are the chances that Brooks and Brohammer do not return next year. Those 2 just aren't Big East players.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:44 Mike
12:47
sbtnoie: 
Mike:

Mike Broghammer isn't a Big East player because Mike Broghammer's body won't let him be. He's had to battle through a whole host of problems with his knees and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better. He may take a medical hardship next season, which would free up a scholarship.

I'm not so sure Joey Brooks can't help somewhere along the line - if he can figure out to do one thing really well, and then do it. That's been a problem for him. As much as he's struggled, Brey believes in guys who can help spread his message. Joey Brooks is a solid guy in the locker room.

To run a guy out the door when he's a year shy of earning his degree? Don't know if that's Mike Brey's style. Elsewhere? Happens all the time. Doesn't happen at Notre Dame.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:47 sbtnoie
12:47
[Comment From DougDoug: ] 
Do you get a chance to see many teams other than the Big east teams? If so what teams are impressing you and is there a sleeper team in BE that could make noise in BE tournAment?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:47 Doug
12:49
sbtnoie: 
Doug:

So, it's a Big East question, right? One team I would not want to play next month in New York is Louisville. It's been a series of starts and stops for the Cardinals, but they may be on the verge of making a late push.

Connecticut is as talented as any team in the country. Can the Huskies clear their collective heads in time to win five games in five days again? Maybe.

Same with Cincinnati. The Bearcats have shown glimpses this season of being really good, and also really bad. What team shows up?

All the stars would have to align for one of the bottom four or five teams to win more than one game next month in New York.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:49 sbtnoie
12:50
[Comment From RobbRobb: ] 
Do you have any stats on 2013 commit VJ Beachem? I heard he has been playing on a bum ankle.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:50 Robb
12:51
sbtnoie: 
Robb:

I usually catch up with the hoops recruits - get their stats, stories, quotes - after the college basketball season ends. I'd say Beachem is averaging maybe 15-18 points a game - but he's only a junior so he's got another year to round out his game.

Same goes for Steve Vasturia, the guard from Philadelphia who was named the Catholic League player of the year. Nice get for a kid who has one year left.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:51 sbtnoie
12:51
[Comment From DaleDale: ] 
Relative to recruiting I hope ND never goes the way of Kentucky and begins to recruit one and dones. Does Brey avoid these type of recuits?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:51 Dale
12:54
sbtnoie: 
Dale:

Yes. Mike Brey doesn't close the door entirely on a possible one-and-done guy, but the kid has to want Notre Dame for the right reasons. Those are the rarest of exceptions. Kids who want to play one year and then head for the NBA aren't always interested in academics.

It's not just the one-and-done guys that Brey cools on when it comes to recruiting. If a kid really wants Notre Dame but is hard to manage, brings a lot of drama to his AAU team or recruiting or visit, Brey will drop that kid as well. He looks for guys who are easy to manage - and want to get better today instead of looking toward tomorrow and the next phase of their basketball career.

That's what has made this program such a success - there's very little drama involved on and and off the court.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:54 sbtnoie
1:02
[Comment From WoodyWoody: ] 
Do you think at some point next year Tom Knight could be playing 12-15 minutes per game for the Irish. I went to the Dartmouth and Syracuse games and he looked pretty good but every time I check the box score he either doesn't play or gets 3 minutes.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:02 Woody
1:03
sbtnoie: 
Woody:

Not unless Jack Cooley get sin serious foul trouble. Cooley is averaging 32.5 minutes in league play, which doesn't leave many minutes for anyone else. Still, as we've seen this year, Tom Knight has to stay ready, it could all change quickly.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:03 sbtnoie
1:03
[Comment From PhilPhil: ] 
Do you agree with the assessment that Mike Brey's teams overachieve when not a lot is expected out of them and underachieve when they have high expectations?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:03 Phil
1:07
sbtnoie: 
Phil:

Nope. Too easy an explanation. Last year's team went 27-7 and 14-4 in the Big East, but everyone hooted and howled when the Irish lost to Florida State in the third round of the NCAA tournament.

Who had this team ticketed as a No. 2 seed in the tournament and a No. 4 ranking back in October? Nobody.

The one case where that might be true was the senior year of Ayers-Hillesland-McAlarney and Zeller when they were the chic pick to go to the FInal Four. Unfortunately, that class tapped out talent-wise when they were juniors - they weren't going to get any better than they were the previous season.

This season has been a nice ride from nowhere, but if Notre Dame were to lose in the second- or third-round of the NCAA tournament, it would classified as a failure in about three seconds.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:07 sbtnoie
1:07
[Comment From DaleDale: ] 
And that's way I love ND basketball. Thanks for keeping it real during the incredibly entertaining season.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:07 Dale
1:07
sbtnoie: 
Dale:

Thanks for the kind words. Your check is in the mail. Maybe.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:07 sbtnoie
1:08
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Biggest X-Factor for the Irish down the stretch? I say Dragicevich. Capable of putting up 0-25 points any given night.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:08 Tyler
1:09
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Solid call, but I don't know how many minutes he'll get to try and go for 25. They really need him to hit shots. It adds another element.

I'll say across the board, can this team collectively do what they've done against the top half of the league now against the bottom half of the league. These are games the Irish SHOULD win, a spot they haven't been in since the non-league play run of sleeper home games.

Can Notre Dame stay motivated and hungry and greedy enough to wrestle away 11-12-13 league wins?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:09 sbtnoie
1:10
[Comment From TomTom: ] 
Joining the chat late, but how can you agree with Brey that Atkins and Grant is the best backcourt Notre Dame ever had. You could put Austin Carr with anybody (including me) and it would be better. I think people get caught up in the here and now too much and forget how great some players were.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:10 Tom
1:15
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Arren't we putting AustinCarr in hr mainly for what he did as a scorer? How well did Austin Carr play defense? I don't know, it was long before my time.

People also get too worked up when someone throws out the "best" line in terms of any player. Mike Brey once said that Scott Martin had the best collection of offensive talent of any player he ever coached. People immediately howled - better than Troy Murphy? Chris Thomas? Luke Harangody? Blasphemy for Brey to say that.

No, no and no. Those guys were pure scorers. Martin, pre-injury could find more ways to score than any of them. He could shoot the three, he had the mid-range, he could drive the lane. We've not seen that, so it's easy for people to take that far out of context.

Same with the guard comment. Watch how Atkins and Grant can change a game on either end. They can score. They can defend. They're DIFFERENT than any guard combination Notre Dame has had in terms of their entire package - scoring, defending, athleticism, length and the belief that they can and will be good and have success.

Oh, yeah, and they win too.

Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:15 sbtnoie
1:15
[Comment From Smitty - TempeSmitty - Tempe: ] 
Hey Tom - going back a few questions to the one re Brooks and Broghammer... you mentioned it happens all the time (not at ND) that a coach will show a player the door. can you expand on that? Will coaches really take a scholarship away from say a junior who hasn't developed, and effectively force them to leave the school? wouldn't that affect their graduation rates?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:15 Smitty - Tempe
1:21
sbtnoie: 
Smitty:

They don't take the scholarship away from a player as much as they would paint the picture of look, if you want to play major Division I college basketball - or really any sport - it's not going to happen for you here for myriad reasons. If you want to go somewhere else where you feel you can play, we'll help you out.

A coach sometimes will encourage the kid to transfer (Charlie Weis did it at Kansas with the guy who played quarterback for the Jayhawks last season).

It happens, but it rarely has happened at Notre Dame. The one case I can think of from a hoops standpoint is former Irish guard Chris Markwood, who arrived as the Gatorade Player of the Year in Maine.

Markwood believed he could be a major minute guy in college. Problem was, he was coming off a major knee injury and had two guys by the names of Chris Thomas and Chris Quinn ahead of him on the depth chart. Markwood wanted to play a lot, but Mike Brey was honest - given the circumstances, it probably wasn't going to happen at Notre Dame.

Markwood weighed his options and didn't want to leave his buddies behind, but he wanted to play. So he transferred to Maine.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:21 sbtnoie
1:21
[Comment From Bill from MilwaukeeBill from Milwaukee: ] 
I heard through the grapevine that Sherman may be the best player on this team when all is said and done... what do you hear?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:21 Bill from Milwaukee
1:23
sbtnoie: 
Bill:

Better than Jerian Grant? Cameron Biedscheid? Pat Connaughton? Your grapevine source might be the president of the Garrick Sherman fan club. And it might be wishful thinking.

Still, if Sherman can be as good next year as Jack Cooley has been this year, it will be a really good 1-2 low-post combination.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:23 sbtnoie
1:23
[Comment From Jim TalJim Tal: ] 
Tom, I want to commend you for your insightful work covering Notre Dame. Because of your writing, I feel I've gotten plenty of inside dope and have learned a lot about the program, the players as well as the coaches.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:23 Jim Tal
1:24
sbtnoie: 
Jim:

Thanks for the kind words. I try to go beyond what fans expect, give them a peek behind the curtain so to speak other than just the who won, who lost and why.

I'm glad you enjoy the coverage. Tell your friends. Call your neighbors. And keep reading.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:24 sbtnoie
1:24
[Comment From Jim TalJim Tal: ] 
Now to my related questions. How do you explain the breakout season of Jack Cooley? Did you have any inkling that he was capable of this kind of effort. I can't remember the last time an Irish player made this kind of quantum leap from one season to the next. If you were to pinpoint one or two things that have made Cooley such a factor, what would they be? Also, does Cooley have any eligibility left beyond next year. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:24 Jim Tal
1:30
sbtnoie: 
Jim:

Yep. I saw this coming all along from jack Cooley - the inside presence, the run of double-doubles, the........

Yeah, sure. No. Nobody - NOBODY - saw THIS coming from Jack Cooley this year. Mike Brey had hoped he could get 20-25 minutes from him. He's averaging 32.5 in league play.

Jack Cooley's emergence stems from a variety of factors, mainly, because he knew he was needed if this team was going to do anything. The fact that he's a starter at Notre Dame in the Big East cannot be ignored. He knows he has to deliver - unlike at any other time in his career - and doesn't want to let his teammates down.

To know that you're a main guy, man, you want to do your best every time out. Cooley has played that way.

Mike Brey said this week that basketball is now important to Jack Cooley more than four days a week. That likely was the case early in his career because he played behind Luke Harangody and then Ty Nash. Now there's no Harangody. There's no Nash. Cooley's not the eighth or ninth man.

Part of the credit also has to go to the coaching staff for their ability to develop Jack Cooley. I thought Cooley would be an OK big man in his career, but nowhere near a Big East player of the week guy. He's developed a nice game.

He also has only one more year, but it could be a really big one, next season.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:30 sbtnoie
1:30
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
Tom: The weekly Brey contract question. Has anyone asked Jack directly what the deal is and why the hold up?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:30 Tom, DC
1:32
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Ha! Good one. Jack Swarbrick isn't going to comment about any university coach and his contract status, especially to us media types.

Mike Brey is signed for the next three seasons - so what's the hurry?

The only thing any "delay" in getting a contract extension based on what's happened this season is Swarbrick may have to add a few more zeroes and years to the new one.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:32 sbtnoie
1:33
[Comment From DougDoug: ] 
Reply to Tom who defended Austin Carr. Mike Brey referred to Atkins and Grant as the best tandem in his tenure at ND. Never compared them to Austin Carr. But it seems Mr. Noie did.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:33 Doug
1:34
sbtnoie: 
Doug:

Nope. Just asked the question - I know all about Austin Carr and his ability to score. But what type of overall player was he? Lock-down defender? Solid? Did he just care about offense? I have no idea and never saw him play.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:34 sbtnoie
1:34
[Comment From Green MachineGreen Machine: ] 
I was wondering if any of the Big East schools besides Notre Dame have graduation rates in basketball that are over 50%?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:34 Green Machine
1:35
sbtnoie: 
Green:

I'm sure there are more than a few. Not every school is like Connecticut, where players seldom go to class or graduate at a rate where the Huskies are ineligible for the 2013 NCAA tournament.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:35 sbtnoie
1:35
[Comment From Tim, NYCTim, NYC: ] 
In one of your recent articles you quoted Cooley saying that he was tired of being on the BE Honor Roll instead of player of the week. Did he say that in jest, with tongue in cheek, or is he just unable to harness his heart?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:35 Tim, NYC
1:36
sbtnoie: 
Tim:

He was joking/serious, which is what makes Cooley a go-to guy in terms of interviews. He isn't afraid to speak his mind and doesn't give you the stale, standard answer.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:36 sbtnoie
1:36
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Tom, who do you think is the emotional leader of this team?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:36 Guest
1:38
sbtnoie: 
Guest:

As funny as it may sound, Scott Martin. As much as last year's team belonged to Ben Hansbrough (though there are some Irish who dispute that), and his drive, martin is more a steady leader who doesn't get too worked up whether his game is going good or struggling. He's kept it all on an even keel, which may be what this young but talented team needed in the biggest time of crisis.

Martin's approach was just keep working and trying to get better. It's going to turn around.

It did.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:38 sbtnoie
1:38
[Comment From Bonkers in YonkersBonkers in Yonkers: ] 
Which player has grown the most from the beginning of the season?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:38 Bonkers in Yonkers
1:40
sbtnoie: 
Bonkers:

Jerian Grant. The look in his eye was one of uncertainty and being totally overwhelmed when Notre Dame played Missouri. He looked and played young.

Fast-forward to last week's win at West Virginia. Grant again seemed young and a little immature while being grabbed and held and bumped each time he got the ball. But he stayed with his game and made the big plays needed down the stretch.

Mike Brey said it earlier this month - Grant doesn't even know how good he can be. Scary thought.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:40 sbtnoie
1:40
[Comment From Dan - ChicagoDan - Chicago: ] 
I think Martin will be granted the 6th year and Abro will not. Do you agree/disagree?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:40 Dan - Chicago
1:42
sbtnoie: 
Dan:

I'm not a betting man, and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but if I had to guess, that's the direction I believe the NCAA will rule.

The NCAA will strongly consider Abromaitis' excellence in academics, but the NCAA also needs to have tangible evidence of why Abromaitis sat out his sophomore season other than not being able to get enough minutes in the current rotation.

Notre Dame will have to be pretty creative to explain that one.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:42 sbtnoie
1:43
[Comment From Justin, BostonJustin, Boston: ] 
I am a senior at ND and I am getting tired about the criticism of our student section. Duke gives lets their students sit right behind their bench. West Virginia lets their students go to games for free. At ND, we're relegated to being behind the basket while having to pay for pricey tickets beyond our already egregious tuition rates. How about some blame for the rest of the crowd? Just as with ND football games, the rest of the crowd is extremely quiet and uninvolved, often the result of many "blue hairs" taking up seats. Louisville can get 21,000 people to their stadium, all dressed in the same color, standing and shouting the entire night. It's time to stop blaming the students for the lack of noise. It's a small school, and there needs to be more support from both the administration and surrounding community.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:43 Justin, Boston
1:46
sbtnoie: 
Justin:

Sounds like these are issues that should be taken up with the administration. The student seating sections for men's basketball games are much smaller than that of football. Can't say we've seen as many empty seats on fall Saturdays as winter weekends.

The Notre Dame students seemingly set a higher standard in games against Marquette and Syracuse - where they WERE a factor. Then against DePaul, what happens? Empty seats.

No excuse. If you can go to the Marquette game and make noise, you can get out of bed and get to the DePaul game. If you can be wild and crazy for Syracuse, do it tonight for Rutgers.

The rest of the crowd takes its cue......FROM THE STUDENTS. If they're indifferent, so is the rest of the place.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:46 sbtnoie
1:46
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
I am curious as to what is considered a "great season." I mean last year's regular season was great but then the loss to FLA ST left everyone disappointed. I know the 78? team went to the Final Four so I am guessing that is the best year ever in ND hoops. I wonder what other seasons were considered special.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:46 Tom, DC
1:50
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

I've covered this program for 14 years, and there's only been a handful of seasons I would consider "great."

2000-01: Brey's first season when Notre Dame won the Big East regular season championship and went back to the NCAA tournament for the first time in 11 years.

2002-03: Notre Dame beat three Top 10 teams in seven days and advanced to the Sweet 16 for the first time in 16 years.

2010-11: Last year speaks for itself. To finish one game from a Big East regular-season championship was a heck of a run.

2011-12: It has the chance to be "great" if this team can get to 12-13 wins and maybe win a game or two in the NCAA tournament.

For a season to be great, you must first define what it means to be great. If it's a deep run in the NCAA tournament, a minimum of 16 out of what, 344 Division I schools, will have a great season.

This team needs to do more in the NCAA tournament. But when it doesn't, it's tough to write that season off as a disappointment.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:50 sbtnoie
1:50
[Comment From Dan - ChicagoDan - Chicago: ] 
How would you compare Tom Hawkins (class of 59') vs. any current players?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:50 Dan - Chicago
1:51
sbtnoie: 
Dan:

Considering he played before I was even born, it's hard to say. I know he's the career leader for rebounding. That's about as deep as my Tom Hawkins knowledge runs.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:51 sbtnoie
1:52
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
Will ND land Jackson...what is the back-up plan?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:52 John
1:53
sbtnoie: 
John:

Who knows and who knows.

We've exhausted the Demetrius Jackson saga. If Notre Dame gets him, great. If they don't, I'm sure the Irish will still find a way to have success. Just won't happen with a local kid on the roster.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:53 sbtnoie
1:55
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
Brey said on TV last week that the Mock T stays on at home and he goes Don Johnson on the road. My suggestion to the students -- how about everyone wear a Green Mock T to the West VA game next week! At MD, there are 5 guys who dress up like Mark Turgeon...how come there are no Brey Bandits in the Leprechaun Legion?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:55 Tom, DC
1:55
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Good idea. Better ask our student on the scene, Justin. A little creativity always helps.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:55 sbtnoie
1:56
[Comment From Jack From GrangerJack From Granger: ] 
Mike Brey will go out as having the most wins in ND men's basketball history with 394! Digger has 393 in 20 years! Mike should have 394 by 18 or 19 years!!!!!!
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:56 Jack From Granger
1:56
sbtnoie: 
Jack:

You want Mike Brey around for another six, seven seasons? He might want a word with you on that one.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:56 sbtnoie
1:59
[Comment From brianbbrianb: ] 
irish showed against Depaul that they can shift into a high-scoring gear reminiscent of the 2007-08 team, however I think that their post-season success prospects are better if tehy stick with the smolder/focus on defense game plan
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:59 brianb
2:00
sbtnoie: 
Brian:

Their post-season success likely hinges on being able toa djust their type of game to keep opponents guessing.

Notre Dame has to be one of the only teams, if not the only one, to have won conference games by scoring as many as 84 points (DePaul) and as few as 50 (Connecticut).

How can you scout that? Prepare for that? That's tough.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:00 sbtnoie
2:03
[Comment From Justin, BostonJustin, Boston: ] 
Just to respond to the earlier question about dressing up like Brey, I'd suggest looking for pictures from last year's senior game demolishing of Villianova.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:03 Justin, Boston
2:03
sbtnoie: 
Justin:

That was last year, right? OK, just making sure. How again will that help this year?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:03 sbtnoie
2:07
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
I think he is suggesting the big cardboard cut out head of Brey in the student section. Bring it back.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:07 Tom, DC
2:08
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Nope, there were four or five guys dressed like Brey in the mock turtleneck, but again, last was last year. Time to do something different - go with the Mike Vice look, alongside a cardboard cut-out of Brey in his Vice look.

Solid.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:08 sbtnoie
2:18
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
How about this from this year's team? First team to win in Louisville since 1956. First team to win in the state of Kentucky since 1980. First team to knock off a #1 team since 1987. First squad to win in the big Gym in UConn since 2000. First team to beat Huggins at WVU. Not bad?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:18 Tom, DC
2:20
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Not bad, at all, and five firsts that nobody would have seen coming after what happened in November and December. Notre Dame wasn't down and out of it, but the Irish were close.

Nobody could have seen what has happened happening. Now take it a step or two further - grab a double bye in the Big East Championship and get to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. Heck, maybe even get a whole lot greedy and beat a No. 1 seed in the process.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:20 sbtnoie
2:20
[Comment From Larry.....Peoria, Il.Larry.....Peoria, Il.: ] 
Tom.....I agree with your response to Justin. Our student section ignites our 'blue hair' crowd and our team. They are so vital to our game's atmosphere both on and off the court. My question: I can't help noticing that Martin seems so much more relaxed to me recently during our games. Even his facial expressions (occasional smiles) makes me think that he is more relaxed than earlier in the season. He seems to be enjoying himself more. Do you sense this when you interview him ?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:20 Larry.....Peoria, Il.
2:23
sbtnoie: 
Larry:

Scott Martin usually keeps his thoughts and feelings pretty guarded, even when it's going good for him. Mention that to him and he'll shrug it off as if it matters little, but it does.

Scott Martin has become a totally different player - the way he works on the court, the way he carries himself - when he realized he didn't have to be Tim Abromaitis when Tim Abromaitis suffered his season-ending knee injury. Martin doesn't have to hit for 18 a game like Abro to have an impact. Just being who he is helped everything else fall into place.

Martin felt as if the weight of the world was on his shoulders when Abromaitis went down. He's now back to playing as one piece to the puzzle. He's at his best as a fit-in guy and the development of Cooley and Grant and the emergence of Connaughton has allowed him to still be that fit-in guy.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:23 sbtnoie
2:23
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
I was in Austin Carr's '67 class. He was one of the greatest shooters I've seen. His pull-up jumper (full speed, then stopping on a dime) was unstoppable. He single-handed beat UCLA in '71. Wooden was so desperate to stop him he put 6'-8" Sidney Wicks and Curtis Rowe on Carr. No matter, Carr got his shot off against these All0Americas time and time again. His stroke was silky smooth. Truly the greatest I've seen at ND! Mark - Alpena, MI
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:23 Guest
2:26
sbtnoie: 
Mark:

Thanks for the note, but we already knew that about Austin Carr - one of the greatest scorers in the history of college basketball. But the point was made earlier in the chat that Carr and whoever should be included as the best backcourt in the history of the program.

I say not so fast because of what Atkins and Grant can do other than just score.

We know Carr scored, but did he carry those Irish teams or make guys around him better?

Look at Grant - he can score, but he also leads the team in assists. He takes just as much pride in finding a guy for a shot as he does in hitting a step-back 3.

Atkins and Grant are really good for their ability to impact the game on multiple levels. Did Carr impact games in other ways than just getting 40-plus a night?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:26 sbtnoie
2:27
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
The Leprechaun Legion actually looked at giving away free mock turtlenecks for one of the games this year, we just weren't able to get it done. However, there will be an Adrian Dantley jersey T given away to all the students for Senior night
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:27 Tyler
2:27
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Also, not to knock Justin, but our student tickets for this season cost 70 dollars for a T-Shirt and 16 home games. You think those are pricey? For the level of basketball we have seen, that is an unreal value.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:27 Tyler
2:29
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Amen - and those tickets likely are bought in bulk, correct? Meaning you can't just say you want to go to the Syracuse game or the Marquette game....you have to buy your seat for the entire year.

That means students who have Syracuse and Marquette tickets also have DePaul tickets, but just didn't bother to show up. That's wrong. Don't give me the early tip time nonsense.

The game started at 12.....roll out of bed at 11:45, throw on a hat, brush your teeth (hopefully) and you can be at Purcell Pavilion by 12:05....and then back in bed by 2 ready and rested for the evening's activities.

If you're a student at Notre Dame, prove to everyone that EVERY game matters, not just the big ones. Somehow, I don't think that's the case.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:29 sbtnoie
2:31
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
Comment to Justin. Talk to the Bookstore. Get the Mock T done. It would be pretty funny.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:31 Tom, DC
2:35
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Correct, the tickets have to be bought for the whole season. We sold more ticket booklets this season than in any season ever, and attendance is actually up across the board...that being said, Notre Dame students don't feel the same social pressure to go to the basketball games that they do the football games. That is starting to change in the midst of this run -- the students can feel something special happening -- but we still have a ways to go to pack the student section every night. We are trying. And to Tom from DC, the Mock T will certainly be done next season, but there isnt enough time to get it done before this one ends. Something to look forward to!
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:35 Tyler
2:36
sbtnoie: 
If there were 2,500 other Tylers who could find their way out of the dorms, attendance wouldn't be an issue. Appreicate your honesty, and your attempt to make Notre Dame basketball matter again in the dorms.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:36 sbtnoie
2:38
[Comment From LawrenceLawrence: ] 
Don't you think your knock on students kind of disheartens those of us in the Legion who go to every game, midterms or not? I feel its like you hate the entire ND student body, did we do something wrong to you? (In which case, don't heap us please) I go to the Womens' game too and the crowd there is more of a collaborative effort...just saying. great job by the way!
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:38 Lawrence
2:42
sbtnoie: 
Lawrence:

Whoa. Easy there, young fella. The knock has never been on the people who go to the games - it's getting the people that don't go to the games to get off their backsides and find Purcell Pavilion. It's maybe two hours out of your day.

This team has won what, 95 percent of its home games in league play the last how many years? I find that fascinating given the overall luke-warm energy from the student body.

yes, you may attend every game, but what about your roomate? The guys next door? Down the hall? What would be a reason to NOT attend a Notre Dame men's basketball game given all this program has accomplished?

Syracuse? Sellout. Marquette? Sellout. Those games were givens. DePaul? Attitude again seems to be, Meh, I'd rather do something else.

No excuses tonight. None.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:42 sbtnoie
2:49
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Tonight actually has an interesting promotion. As a "Valentine's Day" game, any student with a ticket has a +1 -- they can bring any student with them even if they don't have a ticket -- so tonight there really should be no excuses for low attendance...we will see. Lawrence, I really appreciate you coming to every game and supporting...I spend a great deal of time trying to ensure you aren't the only one doing that
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:49 Tyler
2:55
sbtnoie: 
And with that, it's time to call it a chat. Another solid and spirited effort.

Thanks to all who participated. Let's do it again same time (noon), same day (Wednesday) next week.

If you have a question or comment that just cannot wait, drop me a note at tnoie@schurz.com" target="_blank" >tnoie@schurz.com. Take care.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:55 sbtnoie
2:55
 

 
 
 



Tom Noie answered readers' Notre Dame basketball questions in a live chat. Read the transcript.


Tom Noie answered readers' Notre Dame basketball questions in a live chat. Read the transcript.

 Live Chat: Talk Notre Dame basketball with Tom Noie(02/15/2012) 
12:08
sbtnoie: 
Another perfect week for the Notre Dame men's basketball team - wins at West Virginia and at home against DePaul - pulls the Irish (17-8, 9-3 Big East) one step closer to the NCAA tournament.

Notre Dame shoots for league win No. 10 tonight against Rutgers - but it might not be easy. The Scarlet Knights are the last team to beat Notre Dame - 30 days ago today back in Piscataway. Notre Dame managed to do little right that night.

What will happen in the sequel?

Join our live chat about Notre Dame hoops now - just drop a question or comment and be sure to include your name and hometown. Easy way to spend your lunch hour - or hours.

Let's go.....
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:08 sbtnoie
12:13
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Have you had a chance to see Eric Karenda practice?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:13 Guest
12:14
sbtnoie: 
Guest:

Nope....we're not allowed to see practice....might give away some trade secrets. I have seen him warm up, shoot a few jumpers, get loose. Strong stuff. Kidding.

He looks like someone who might be able to help. He's said all along that he intends to play college basketball - and beyond. I believe it will happen.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:14 sbtnoie
12:15
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
What effect do you think the noise level of the Leprechaun Legion has on the team's performance? Were the Irish flat this weekend because the students were flat?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:15 Tyler
12:19
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Great observation. Absolutely I believe Notre Dame was flat because the student section was less than strong.

Look at it from the players' point of view - they've won five games in a row to come from nowhere for the chance to chase an NCAA tournament bid. DePaul is about as big of a rival, other than maybe UCLA and Marquette, that Notre Dame has in hoops.

And then go walk out of the locker room to warm up for Saturday's game and see a whole bunch of empty seats.

There's nothing better in college basketball, no matter the site, than a full house and a whole bunch of noise. Better yet - a full house for a team that's on a serious run like Notre Dame.

I had a Notre Dame student shoot me a tweet during the Marquette game, telling me to note how full and out in force the student section was for that game. My response? Any group can find their way to Purcell Pavilion for the games against Marquette and Syracuse. Get back to me after DePaul and Rutgers.

Never heard back after all those empty blue seats against DePaul. Hope tonight is not more of the same. The players will never say it on the record, but you can be sure it bothers them when they see the place isn't full.

There have been plenty of times this team has won despite the crowd. Saturday was one of them. The people that were there were good, but when it's listed as a sellout, you might want to have it actually be a sellout.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:19 sbtnoie
12:19
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
After seeing the Irish try and speed up DePaul, and not having the greatest result, do you think they stick almost exclusively with the burn offense the rest of the season? Their defense certainly picks up when they slow the pace.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:19 Tyler
12:23
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Not necessarily. DePaul may be in second to last place in the Big East, but that's a team that gives Notre Dame a whole host of trouble. Why? They have guys who can just break down defenders off the dribble and get to the basket. And they can score.

The Blue Demons don't have just one guy that can go get himself points. They have like three or four, and they want to play up-tempo. At some point, with DePaul playing loose and slicing Notre Dame off the dribble, the Irish were going to have to outscore them - that hasn't been the case during this run.

Other than maybe Syracuse, no team in the league has guys who can go get 15-20 without seemingly breaking a sweat. DePaul's a bad matchup, and even more so when its season is going down the drain - they're not going to run much offense, but they are going to score.

They were tough to guard.

Notre Dame will continue to mix the offensive pace and defensive looks the rest of the way. I would be surprised if either team hit for at least 75 tonight.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:23 sbtnoie
12:23
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
What will ND do on Senior Night? Proceed as if Tim and Scott are not returning?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:23 Tom, DC
12:24
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

As of now, yes, unless they hear from the NCAA. Mike Brey was hopeful to hear something about Scott Martin before the end of the month. The easiest way to go about it is honor them and let them have their night, and if one or both get a sixth year, so be it.

It's also the night that Adrian Dantley goes into the Purcell Pavilion Ring of Honor.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:24 sbtnoie
12:24
[Comment From DougDoug: ] 
Brey says Grant and Atkins are best guard tandem he has ever had. Your thoughts? A young Chris Thomas and a veteran Matt Carroll were pretty good.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:24 Doug
12:28
sbtnoie: 
Doug:

You could come up with a whole host of combinations - young and old - in terms of good guards. Carroll and Thomas were really good during the 2002-03 run to the Sweet 16, but Atkins and Grant probably have them beat as defenders.

I agree with Mike Brey on this one - Atkins and Grant are a unique combination, and will be for two more seasons. The way they can defend with their length is what sets them apart. They're really good, and they believe.

It reached a point in the DePaul game when both decided it was time to start making plays to win the game. Then they did.

Whenever the subject of Atkins and Grant surfaces, I'm reminded of the whole "Everett Golson has to play hoops" debate of last season. It may have sounded like a good idea at the time, but even then, when Grant was sitting out the season, Brey insisted that he had two really good, young guards who needed to play, and that there really wasn't much of an opportunity for Golson.

Now we see why.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:28 sbtnoie
12:28
[Comment From JoseJose: ] 
Tom, if Scott Martin is granted a 6th year the Irish would return the same starting 5. Add Sherman and Biedscheid to the mix , do you see Brey red shirting both Auguste and Burgett?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:28 Jose
12:31
sbtnoie: 
Jose:

Who knows what the rotation might look like next season.

Mike Brey is excited about adding the length and athleticism of Auguste into the mix. Burgett might arrive in June and prove he's worthy of immediate playing time.

What happens in terms of injury? Illness? If one of those guys had planned to sit out this season, they probably would have been pressed to play when illness and injury hit in November.

If Scott Martin returns, if Eric Katenda proves he can play, there will be discussions to be held and decisions to be made. The Irish bench will be as deep as its ever been under Brey, but he's still probably not going to go much deeper than eight, maybe nine guys.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:31 sbtnoie
12:31
[Comment From DaleDale: ] 
It looks like Coach Brey has settled into a six man rotation. Will they have enough stamina to carry them thru the Big East Tourney and NCAAs?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:31 Dale
12:34
sbtnoie: 
Dale:

Ahh, the constant question of depth waiting to be dissected. Notre Dame loses a game, that's going to be the first criticism - Brey doesn't play enough guys. The main guys are tired, etc., etc., etc.

Mike Brey hasn't "settled" on a six-man rotation. He's always said that what guys do will help determine how many of them play. Joe Brooks is the seventh man, but really hasn't done a whole lot to earn the trust of the coaching staff. Same with Tom Knight. They have had their moments where they've done something well, but also moments (turnovers, fouls) where Brey might not yet trust them.

With the type of style the Irish have played - limiting possessions, slowing the game - a short bench may not be that big of an issue.

I'll tell you this - it reached a point in the DePaul game, and early, when I felt a whole more confident in the six guys that saw the bulk of the minutes rather than going with Brooks and Knight.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:34 sbtnoie
12:35
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Pat Connaughton is certainly one of the fan favorites for this season, but has had a very roller-coaster-like year. What do you think he needs to do to ensure that his play is more consistent? I would argue that he needs to put the ball on the floor more. He has a fantastic shot, but people are going to dial in on it because he refuses to put the ball on the floor. He rarely dribbles.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:35 Tyler
12:37
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

That's maybe not his game. He needs to trust his shot and continue to shoot it when he's open.

Instead of putting the ball on the floor more and getting to the rim, maybe he needs to get himself an offensive rebound and stick-back.....run the floor and get something easy in transition.

Pat Connaughton's has shown signs of being a freshman, and that's only natural. But Notre Dame also hasn't lost since Connaughton was added to the starting lineup. Coincidence? Nope.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:37 sbtnoie
12:37
[Comment From WillieWillie: ] 
Tom, when is Demtruis Jackson going to commit to the Irish?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:37 Willie
12:39
sbtnoie: 
Willie:

All right, the chat is complete - we have our weekly Demetrius Jackson question, and again, one that has been asked and answered every Wednesday.

Nothing has changed - Demetrius Jackson will commit when Demetrius Jackson wants to commit. Could be in the next five minutes, could be five days or even five weeks.

What's the hurry? This college season doesn't hinge on a prep junior giving his word. Notre Dame likely has been nothing but upfront and honest about where Jackson stands in terms of the future of the program.

It's now up to Jackson to decide if Notre Dame is the best fit for him. Pretty simple.


Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:39 sbtnoie
12:39
[Comment From Brad from South BendBrad from South Bend: ] 
Barring any implosion on ND's part, they are going to make it to the Big Dance. Currently, Joe Lunardi has the Irish as a 7 seed facing a 10-seeded Purdue team. First, what are your thoughts on this match-up and secondly, is there any team that would not be a good match-up for the Irish in the 1st (technically the 2nd) round?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:39 Brad from South Bend
12:41
sbtnoie: 
Brad:

Still too early to concentrate on any and all talk about the NCAA tournament until this program can get to 11 league wins. Until that happens, Notre Dame could lose two, three in a row as quickly as the Irish have run off six straight wins.

Don't start worrying about the NCAA tournament. Worry about how Notre Dame can be better against Rutgers, a team that made the Irish look like babies (Mike Brey in today's SBT) the first time around.

Start dreaming about NCAA tournament seeds and bad things can happen.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:41 sbtnoie
12:41
[Comment From MikeMike: ] 
Is it just me every time ND plays at Home the Visiting team always in the 2nd Half there basket is looking at the student body..
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:41 Mike
12:42
sbtnoie: 
Mike:

That's by design. College teams prefer to run their offense in the second half at the basket in front of their own bench. That just happens to be where the student body is located.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:42 sbtnoie
12:42
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
It looks like it is down to Brey and Boeheim for Big East Coach of the Year, and Brey is very much on the radar (Brey-dar?) for National Coach of the Year. How much of an effect do you think accolades such as those have on recruiting?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:42 Tyler
12:44
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Huge. Who wouldn't want to play for the three-time Big East coach of the year?

If Notre Dame can get to 11 wins, Brey should be a lock to win league coach of the year a fourth time. National coach of the year? Maybe not. Notre Dame does have eight losses this season. It might be hard to nudge past Frank Haith for the job he's done at Missouri.

Still, if Notre Dame continues on its run, Mike Brey belongs in any starting five when it comes to discussion about national coach of the year.

That's a no-brainer.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:44 sbtnoie
12:44
[Comment From MikeMike: ] 
In order to free up roster spots and playing time, what are the chances that Brooks and Brohammer do not return next year. Those 2 just aren't Big East players.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:44 Mike
12:47
sbtnoie: 
Mike:

Mike Broghammer isn't a Big East player because Mike Broghammer's body won't let him be. He's had to battle through a whole host of problems with his knees and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better. He may take a medical hardship next season, which would free up a scholarship.

I'm not so sure Joey Brooks can't help somewhere along the line - if he can figure out to do one thing really well, and then do it. That's been a problem for him. As much as he's struggled, Brey believes in guys who can help spread his message. Joey Brooks is a solid guy in the locker room.

To run a guy out the door when he's a year shy of earning his degree? Don't know if that's Mike Brey's style. Elsewhere? Happens all the time. Doesn't happen at Notre Dame.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:47 sbtnoie
12:47
[Comment From DougDoug: ] 
Do you get a chance to see many teams other than the Big east teams? If so what teams are impressing you and is there a sleeper team in BE that could make noise in BE tournAment?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:47 Doug
12:49
sbtnoie: 
Doug:

So, it's a Big East question, right? One team I would not want to play next month in New York is Louisville. It's been a series of starts and stops for the Cardinals, but they may be on the verge of making a late push.

Connecticut is as talented as any team in the country. Can the Huskies clear their collective heads in time to win five games in five days again? Maybe.

Same with Cincinnati. The Bearcats have shown glimpses this season of being really good, and also really bad. What team shows up?

All the stars would have to align for one of the bottom four or five teams to win more than one game next month in New York.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:49 sbtnoie
12:50
[Comment From RobbRobb: ] 
Do you have any stats on 2013 commit VJ Beachem? I heard he has been playing on a bum ankle.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:50 Robb
12:51
sbtnoie: 
Robb:

I usually catch up with the hoops recruits - get their stats, stories, quotes - after the college basketball season ends. I'd say Beachem is averaging maybe 15-18 points a game - but he's only a junior so he's got another year to round out his game.

Same goes for Steve Vasturia, the guard from Philadelphia who was named the Catholic League player of the year. Nice get for a kid who has one year left.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:51 sbtnoie
12:51
[Comment From DaleDale: ] 
Relative to recruiting I hope ND never goes the way of Kentucky and begins to recruit one and dones. Does Brey avoid these type of recuits?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:51 Dale
12:54
sbtnoie: 
Dale:

Yes. Mike Brey doesn't close the door entirely on a possible one-and-done guy, but the kid has to want Notre Dame for the right reasons. Those are the rarest of exceptions. Kids who want to play one year and then head for the NBA aren't always interested in academics.

It's not just the one-and-done guys that Brey cools on when it comes to recruiting. If a kid really wants Notre Dame but is hard to manage, brings a lot of drama to his AAU team or recruiting or visit, Brey will drop that kid as well. He looks for guys who are easy to manage - and want to get better today instead of looking toward tomorrow and the next phase of their basketball career.

That's what has made this program such a success - there's very little drama involved on and and off the court.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 12:54 sbtnoie
1:02
[Comment From WoodyWoody: ] 
Do you think at some point next year Tom Knight could be playing 12-15 minutes per game for the Irish. I went to the Dartmouth and Syracuse games and he looked pretty good but every time I check the box score he either doesn't play or gets 3 minutes.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:02 Woody
1:03
sbtnoie: 
Woody:

Not unless Jack Cooley get sin serious foul trouble. Cooley is averaging 32.5 minutes in league play, which doesn't leave many minutes for anyone else. Still, as we've seen this year, Tom Knight has to stay ready, it could all change quickly.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:03 sbtnoie
1:03
[Comment From PhilPhil: ] 
Do you agree with the assessment that Mike Brey's teams overachieve when not a lot is expected out of them and underachieve when they have high expectations?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:03 Phil
1:07
sbtnoie: 
Phil:

Nope. Too easy an explanation. Last year's team went 27-7 and 14-4 in the Big East, but everyone hooted and howled when the Irish lost to Florida State in the third round of the NCAA tournament.

Who had this team ticketed as a No. 2 seed in the tournament and a No. 4 ranking back in October? Nobody.

The one case where that might be true was the senior year of Ayers-Hillesland-McAlarney and Zeller when they were the chic pick to go to the FInal Four. Unfortunately, that class tapped out talent-wise when they were juniors - they weren't going to get any better than they were the previous season.

This season has been a nice ride from nowhere, but if Notre Dame were to lose in the second- or third-round of the NCAA tournament, it would classified as a failure in about three seconds.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:07 sbtnoie
1:07
[Comment From DaleDale: ] 
And that's way I love ND basketball. Thanks for keeping it real during the incredibly entertaining season.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:07 Dale
1:07
sbtnoie: 
Dale:

Thanks for the kind words. Your check is in the mail. Maybe.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:07 sbtnoie
1:08
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Biggest X-Factor for the Irish down the stretch? I say Dragicevich. Capable of putting up 0-25 points any given night.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:08 Tyler
1:09
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Solid call, but I don't know how many minutes he'll get to try and go for 25. They really need him to hit shots. It adds another element.

I'll say across the board, can this team collectively do what they've done against the top half of the league now against the bottom half of the league. These are games the Irish SHOULD win, a spot they haven't been in since the non-league play run of sleeper home games.

Can Notre Dame stay motivated and hungry and greedy enough to wrestle away 11-12-13 league wins?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:09 sbtnoie
1:10
[Comment From TomTom: ] 
Joining the chat late, but how can you agree with Brey that Atkins and Grant is the best backcourt Notre Dame ever had. You could put Austin Carr with anybody (including me) and it would be better. I think people get caught up in the here and now too much and forget how great some players were.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:10 Tom
1:15
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Arren't we putting AustinCarr in hr mainly for what he did as a scorer? How well did Austin Carr play defense? I don't know, it was long before my time.

People also get too worked up when someone throws out the "best" line in terms of any player. Mike Brey once said that Scott Martin had the best collection of offensive talent of any player he ever coached. People immediately howled - better than Troy Murphy? Chris Thomas? Luke Harangody? Blasphemy for Brey to say that.

No, no and no. Those guys were pure scorers. Martin, pre-injury could find more ways to score than any of them. He could shoot the three, he had the mid-range, he could drive the lane. We've not seen that, so it's easy for people to take that far out of context.

Same with the guard comment. Watch how Atkins and Grant can change a game on either end. They can score. They can defend. They're DIFFERENT than any guard combination Notre Dame has had in terms of their entire package - scoring, defending, athleticism, length and the belief that they can and will be good and have success.

Oh, yeah, and they win too.

Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:15 sbtnoie
1:15
[Comment From Smitty - TempeSmitty - Tempe: ] 
Hey Tom - going back a few questions to the one re Brooks and Broghammer... you mentioned it happens all the time (not at ND) that a coach will show a player the door. can you expand on that? Will coaches really take a scholarship away from say a junior who hasn't developed, and effectively force them to leave the school? wouldn't that affect their graduation rates?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:15 Smitty - Tempe
1:21
sbtnoie: 
Smitty:

They don't take the scholarship away from a player as much as they would paint the picture of look, if you want to play major Division I college basketball - or really any sport - it's not going to happen for you here for myriad reasons. If you want to go somewhere else where you feel you can play, we'll help you out.

A coach sometimes will encourage the kid to transfer (Charlie Weis did it at Kansas with the guy who played quarterback for the Jayhawks last season).

It happens, but it rarely has happened at Notre Dame. The one case I can think of from a hoops standpoint is former Irish guard Chris Markwood, who arrived as the Gatorade Player of the Year in Maine.

Markwood believed he could be a major minute guy in college. Problem was, he was coming off a major knee injury and had two guys by the names of Chris Thomas and Chris Quinn ahead of him on the depth chart. Markwood wanted to play a lot, but Mike Brey was honest - given the circumstances, it probably wasn't going to happen at Notre Dame.

Markwood weighed his options and didn't want to leave his buddies behind, but he wanted to play. So he transferred to Maine.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:21 sbtnoie
1:21
[Comment From Bill from MilwaukeeBill from Milwaukee: ] 
I heard through the grapevine that Sherman may be the best player on this team when all is said and done... what do you hear?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:21 Bill from Milwaukee
1:23
sbtnoie: 
Bill:

Better than Jerian Grant? Cameron Biedscheid? Pat Connaughton? Your grapevine source might be the president of the Garrick Sherman fan club. And it might be wishful thinking.

Still, if Sherman can be as good next year as Jack Cooley has been this year, it will be a really good 1-2 low-post combination.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:23 sbtnoie
1:23
[Comment From Jim TalJim Tal: ] 
Tom, I want to commend you for your insightful work covering Notre Dame. Because of your writing, I feel I've gotten plenty of inside dope and have learned a lot about the program, the players as well as the coaches.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:23 Jim Tal
1:24
sbtnoie: 
Jim:

Thanks for the kind words. I try to go beyond what fans expect, give them a peek behind the curtain so to speak other than just the who won, who lost and why.

I'm glad you enjoy the coverage. Tell your friends. Call your neighbors. And keep reading.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:24 sbtnoie
1:24
[Comment From Jim TalJim Tal: ] 
Now to my related questions. How do you explain the breakout season of Jack Cooley? Did you have any inkling that he was capable of this kind of effort. I can't remember the last time an Irish player made this kind of quantum leap from one season to the next. If you were to pinpoint one or two things that have made Cooley such a factor, what would they be? Also, does Cooley have any eligibility left beyond next year. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:24 Jim Tal
1:30
sbtnoie: 
Jim:

Yep. I saw this coming all along from jack Cooley - the inside presence, the run of double-doubles, the........

Yeah, sure. No. Nobody - NOBODY - saw THIS coming from Jack Cooley this year. Mike Brey had hoped he could get 20-25 minutes from him. He's averaging 32.5 in league play.

Jack Cooley's emergence stems from a variety of factors, mainly, because he knew he was needed if this team was going to do anything. The fact that he's a starter at Notre Dame in the Big East cannot be ignored. He knows he has to deliver - unlike at any other time in his career - and doesn't want to let his teammates down.

To know that you're a main guy, man, you want to do your best every time out. Cooley has played that way.

Mike Brey said this week that basketball is now important to Jack Cooley more than four days a week. That likely was the case early in his career because he played behind Luke Harangody and then Ty Nash. Now there's no Harangody. There's no Nash. Cooley's not the eighth or ninth man.

Part of the credit also has to go to the coaching staff for their ability to develop Jack Cooley. I thought Cooley would be an OK big man in his career, but nowhere near a Big East player of the week guy. He's developed a nice game.

He also has only one more year, but it could be a really big one, next season.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:30 sbtnoie
1:30
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
Tom: The weekly Brey contract question. Has anyone asked Jack directly what the deal is and why the hold up?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:30 Tom, DC
1:32
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Ha! Good one. Jack Swarbrick isn't going to comment about any university coach and his contract status, especially to us media types.

Mike Brey is signed for the next three seasons - so what's the hurry?

The only thing any "delay" in getting a contract extension based on what's happened this season is Swarbrick may have to add a few more zeroes and years to the new one.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:32 sbtnoie
1:33
[Comment From DougDoug: ] 
Reply to Tom who defended Austin Carr. Mike Brey referred to Atkins and Grant as the best tandem in his tenure at ND. Never compared them to Austin Carr. But it seems Mr. Noie did.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:33 Doug
1:34
sbtnoie: 
Doug:

Nope. Just asked the question - I know all about Austin Carr and his ability to score. But what type of overall player was he? Lock-down defender? Solid? Did he just care about offense? I have no idea and never saw him play.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:34 sbtnoie
1:34
[Comment From Green MachineGreen Machine: ] 
I was wondering if any of the Big East schools besides Notre Dame have graduation rates in basketball that are over 50%?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:34 Green Machine
1:35
sbtnoie: 
Green:

I'm sure there are more than a few. Not every school is like Connecticut, where players seldom go to class or graduate at a rate where the Huskies are ineligible for the 2013 NCAA tournament.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:35 sbtnoie
1:35
[Comment From Tim, NYCTim, NYC: ] 
In one of your recent articles you quoted Cooley saying that he was tired of being on the BE Honor Roll instead of player of the week. Did he say that in jest, with tongue in cheek, or is he just unable to harness his heart?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:35 Tim, NYC
1:36
sbtnoie: 
Tim:

He was joking/serious, which is what makes Cooley a go-to guy in terms of interviews. He isn't afraid to speak his mind and doesn't give you the stale, standard answer.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:36 sbtnoie
1:36
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Tom, who do you think is the emotional leader of this team?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:36 Guest
1:38
sbtnoie: 
Guest:

As funny as it may sound, Scott Martin. As much as last year's team belonged to Ben Hansbrough (though there are some Irish who dispute that), and his drive, martin is more a steady leader who doesn't get too worked up whether his game is going good or struggling. He's kept it all on an even keel, which may be what this young but talented team needed in the biggest time of crisis.

Martin's approach was just keep working and trying to get better. It's going to turn around.

It did.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:38 sbtnoie
1:38
[Comment From Bonkers in YonkersBonkers in Yonkers: ] 
Which player has grown the most from the beginning of the season?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:38 Bonkers in Yonkers
1:40
sbtnoie: 
Bonkers:

Jerian Grant. The look in his eye was one of uncertainty and being totally overwhelmed when Notre Dame played Missouri. He looked and played young.

Fast-forward to last week's win at West Virginia. Grant again seemed young and a little immature while being grabbed and held and bumped each time he got the ball. But he stayed with his game and made the big plays needed down the stretch.

Mike Brey said it earlier this month - Grant doesn't even know how good he can be. Scary thought.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:40 sbtnoie
1:40
[Comment From Dan - ChicagoDan - Chicago: ] 
I think Martin will be granted the 6th year and Abro will not. Do you agree/disagree?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:40 Dan - Chicago
1:42
sbtnoie: 
Dan:

I'm not a betting man, and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but if I had to guess, that's the direction I believe the NCAA will rule.

The NCAA will strongly consider Abromaitis' excellence in academics, but the NCAA also needs to have tangible evidence of why Abromaitis sat out his sophomore season other than not being able to get enough minutes in the current rotation.

Notre Dame will have to be pretty creative to explain that one.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:42 sbtnoie
1:43
[Comment From Justin, BostonJustin, Boston: ] 
I am a senior at ND and I am getting tired about the criticism of our student section. Duke gives lets their students sit right behind their bench. West Virginia lets their students go to games for free. At ND, we're relegated to being behind the basket while having to pay for pricey tickets beyond our already egregious tuition rates. How about some blame for the rest of the crowd? Just as with ND football games, the rest of the crowd is extremely quiet and uninvolved, often the result of many "blue hairs" taking up seats. Louisville can get 21,000 people to their stadium, all dressed in the same color, standing and shouting the entire night. It's time to stop blaming the students for the lack of noise. It's a small school, and there needs to be more support from both the administration and surrounding community.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:43 Justin, Boston
1:46
sbtnoie: 
Justin:

Sounds like these are issues that should be taken up with the administration. The student seating sections for men's basketball games are much smaller than that of football. Can't say we've seen as many empty seats on fall Saturdays as winter weekends.

The Notre Dame students seemingly set a higher standard in games against Marquette and Syracuse - where they WERE a factor. Then against DePaul, what happens? Empty seats.

No excuse. If you can go to the Marquette game and make noise, you can get out of bed and get to the DePaul game. If you can be wild and crazy for Syracuse, do it tonight for Rutgers.

The rest of the crowd takes its cue......FROM THE STUDENTS. If they're indifferent, so is the rest of the place.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:46 sbtnoie
1:46
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
I am curious as to what is considered a "great season." I mean last year's regular season was great but then the loss to FLA ST left everyone disappointed. I know the 78? team went to the Final Four so I am guessing that is the best year ever in ND hoops. I wonder what other seasons were considered special.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:46 Tom, DC
1:50
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

I've covered this program for 14 years, and there's only been a handful of seasons I would consider "great."

2000-01: Brey's first season when Notre Dame won the Big East regular season championship and went back to the NCAA tournament for the first time in 11 years.

2002-03: Notre Dame beat three Top 10 teams in seven days and advanced to the Sweet 16 for the first time in 16 years.

2010-11: Last year speaks for itself. To finish one game from a Big East regular-season championship was a heck of a run.

2011-12: It has the chance to be "great" if this team can get to 12-13 wins and maybe win a game or two in the NCAA tournament.

For a season to be great, you must first define what it means to be great. If it's a deep run in the NCAA tournament, a minimum of 16 out of what, 344 Division I schools, will have a great season.

This team needs to do more in the NCAA tournament. But when it doesn't, it's tough to write that season off as a disappointment.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:50 sbtnoie
1:50
[Comment From Dan - ChicagoDan - Chicago: ] 
How would you compare Tom Hawkins (class of 59') vs. any current players?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:50 Dan - Chicago
1:51
sbtnoie: 
Dan:

Considering he played before I was even born, it's hard to say. I know he's the career leader for rebounding. That's about as deep as my Tom Hawkins knowledge runs.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:51 sbtnoie
1:52
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
Will ND land Jackson...what is the back-up plan?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:52 John
1:53
sbtnoie: 
John:

Who knows and who knows.

We've exhausted the Demetrius Jackson saga. If Notre Dame gets him, great. If they don't, I'm sure the Irish will still find a way to have success. Just won't happen with a local kid on the roster.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:53 sbtnoie
1:55
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
Brey said on TV last week that the Mock T stays on at home and he goes Don Johnson on the road. My suggestion to the students -- how about everyone wear a Green Mock T to the West VA game next week! At MD, there are 5 guys who dress up like Mark Turgeon...how come there are no Brey Bandits in the Leprechaun Legion?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:55 Tom, DC
1:55
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Good idea. Better ask our student on the scene, Justin. A little creativity always helps.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:55 sbtnoie
1:56
[Comment From Jack From GrangerJack From Granger: ] 
Mike Brey will go out as having the most wins in ND men's basketball history with 394! Digger has 393 in 20 years! Mike should have 394 by 18 or 19 years!!!!!!
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:56 Jack From Granger
1:56
sbtnoie: 
Jack:

You want Mike Brey around for another six, seven seasons? He might want a word with you on that one.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:56 sbtnoie
1:59
[Comment From brianbbrianb: ] 
irish showed against Depaul that they can shift into a high-scoring gear reminiscent of the 2007-08 team, however I think that their post-season success prospects are better if tehy stick with the smolder/focus on defense game plan
Wednesday February 15, 2012 1:59 brianb
2:00
sbtnoie: 
Brian:

Their post-season success likely hinges on being able toa djust their type of game to keep opponents guessing.

Notre Dame has to be one of the only teams, if not the only one, to have won conference games by scoring as many as 84 points (DePaul) and as few as 50 (Connecticut).

How can you scout that? Prepare for that? That's tough.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:00 sbtnoie
2:03
[Comment From Justin, BostonJustin, Boston: ] 
Just to respond to the earlier question about dressing up like Brey, I'd suggest looking for pictures from last year's senior game demolishing of Villianova.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:03 Justin, Boston
2:03
sbtnoie: 
Justin:

That was last year, right? OK, just making sure. How again will that help this year?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:03 sbtnoie
2:07
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
I think he is suggesting the big cardboard cut out head of Brey in the student section. Bring it back.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:07 Tom, DC
2:08
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Nope, there were four or five guys dressed like Brey in the mock turtleneck, but again, last was last year. Time to do something different - go with the Mike Vice look, alongside a cardboard cut-out of Brey in his Vice look.

Solid.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:08 sbtnoie
2:18
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
How about this from this year's team? First team to win in Louisville since 1956. First team to win in the state of Kentucky since 1980. First team to knock off a #1 team since 1987. First squad to win in the big Gym in UConn since 2000. First team to beat Huggins at WVU. Not bad?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:18 Tom, DC
2:20
sbtnoie: 
Tom:

Not bad, at all, and five firsts that nobody would have seen coming after what happened in November and December. Notre Dame wasn't down and out of it, but the Irish were close.

Nobody could have seen what has happened happening. Now take it a step or two further - grab a double bye in the Big East Championship and get to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. Heck, maybe even get a whole lot greedy and beat a No. 1 seed in the process.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:20 sbtnoie
2:20
[Comment From Larry.....Peoria, Il.Larry.....Peoria, Il.: ] 
Tom.....I agree with your response to Justin. Our student section ignites our 'blue hair' crowd and our team. They are so vital to our game's atmosphere both on and off the court. My question: I can't help noticing that Martin seems so much more relaxed to me recently during our games. Even his facial expressions (occasional smiles) makes me think that he is more relaxed than earlier in the season. He seems to be enjoying himself more. Do you sense this when you interview him ?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:20 Larry.....Peoria, Il.
2:23
sbtnoie: 
Larry:

Scott Martin usually keeps his thoughts and feelings pretty guarded, even when it's going good for him. Mention that to him and he'll shrug it off as if it matters little, but it does.

Scott Martin has become a totally different player - the way he works on the court, the way he carries himself - when he realized he didn't have to be Tim Abromaitis when Tim Abromaitis suffered his season-ending knee injury. Martin doesn't have to hit for 18 a game like Abro to have an impact. Just being who he is helped everything else fall into place.

Martin felt as if the weight of the world was on his shoulders when Abromaitis went down. He's now back to playing as one piece to the puzzle. He's at his best as a fit-in guy and the development of Cooley and Grant and the emergence of Connaughton has allowed him to still be that fit-in guy.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:23 sbtnoie
2:23
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
I was in Austin Carr's '67 class. He was one of the greatest shooters I've seen. His pull-up jumper (full speed, then stopping on a dime) was unstoppable. He single-handed beat UCLA in '71. Wooden was so desperate to stop him he put 6'-8" Sidney Wicks and Curtis Rowe on Carr. No matter, Carr got his shot off against these All0Americas time and time again. His stroke was silky smooth. Truly the greatest I've seen at ND! Mark - Alpena, MI
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:23 Guest
2:26
sbtnoie: 
Mark:

Thanks for the note, but we already knew that about Austin Carr - one of the greatest scorers in the history of college basketball. But the point was made earlier in the chat that Carr and whoever should be included as the best backcourt in the history of the program.

I say not so fast because of what Atkins and Grant can do other than just score.

We know Carr scored, but did he carry those Irish teams or make guys around him better?

Look at Grant - he can score, but he also leads the team in assists. He takes just as much pride in finding a guy for a shot as he does in hitting a step-back 3.

Atkins and Grant are really good for their ability to impact the game on multiple levels. Did Carr impact games in other ways than just getting 40-plus a night?
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:26 sbtnoie
2:27
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
The Leprechaun Legion actually looked at giving away free mock turtlenecks for one of the games this year, we just weren't able to get it done. However, there will be an Adrian Dantley jersey T given away to all the students for Senior night
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:27 Tyler
2:27
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Also, not to knock Justin, but our student tickets for this season cost 70 dollars for a T-Shirt and 16 home games. You think those are pricey? For the level of basketball we have seen, that is an unreal value.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:27 Tyler
2:29
sbtnoie: 
Tyler:

Amen - and those tickets likely are bought in bulk, correct? Meaning you can't just say you want to go to the Syracuse game or the Marquette game....you have to buy your seat for the entire year.

That means students who have Syracuse and Marquette tickets also have DePaul tickets, but just didn't bother to show up. That's wrong. Don't give me the early tip time nonsense.

The game started at 12.....roll out of bed at 11:45, throw on a hat, brush your teeth (hopefully) and you can be at Purcell Pavilion by 12:05....and then back in bed by 2 ready and rested for the evening's activities.

If you're a student at Notre Dame, prove to everyone that EVERY game matters, not just the big ones. Somehow, I don't think that's the case.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:29 sbtnoie
2:31
[Comment From Tom, DCTom, DC: ] 
Comment to Justin. Talk to the Bookstore. Get the Mock T done. It would be pretty funny.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:31 Tom, DC
2:35
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Correct, the tickets have to be bought for the whole season. We sold more ticket booklets this season than in any season ever, and attendance is actually up across the board...that being said, Notre Dame students don't feel the same social pressure to go to the basketball games that they do the football games. That is starting to change in the midst of this run -- the students can feel something special happening -- but we still have a ways to go to pack the student section every night. We are trying. And to Tom from DC, the Mock T will certainly be done next season, but there isnt enough time to get it done before this one ends. Something to look forward to!
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:35 Tyler
2:36
sbtnoie: 
If there were 2,500 other Tylers who could find their way out of the dorms, attendance wouldn't be an issue. Appreicate your honesty, and your attempt to make Notre Dame basketball matter again in the dorms.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:36 sbtnoie
2:38
[Comment From LawrenceLawrence: ] 
Don't you think your knock on students kind of disheartens those of us in the Legion who go to every game, midterms or not? I feel its like you hate the entire ND student body, did we do something wrong to you? (In which case, don't heap us please) I go to the Womens' game too and the crowd there is more of a collaborative effort...just saying. great job by the way!
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:38 Lawrence
2:42
sbtnoie: 
Lawrence:

Whoa. Easy there, young fella. The knock has never been on the people who go to the games - it's getting the people that don't go to the games to get off their backsides and find Purcell Pavilion. It's maybe two hours out of your day.

This team has won what, 95 percent of its home games in league play the last how many years? I find that fascinating given the overall luke-warm energy from the student body.

yes, you may attend every game, but what about your roomate? The guys next door? Down the hall? What would be a reason to NOT attend a Notre Dame men's basketball game given all this program has accomplished?

Syracuse? Sellout. Marquette? Sellout. Those games were givens. DePaul? Attitude again seems to be, Meh, I'd rather do something else.

No excuses tonight. None.
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:42 sbtnoie
2:49
[Comment From TylerTyler: ] 
Tonight actually has an interesting promotion. As a "Valentine's Day" game, any student with a ticket has a +1 -- they can bring any student with them even if they don't have a ticket -- so tonight there really should be no excuses for low attendance...we will see. Lawrence, I really appreciate you coming to every game and supporting...I spend a great deal of time trying to ensure you aren't the only one doing that
Wednesday February 15, 2012 2:49 Tyler
2:55
sbtnoie: 
And with that, it's time to call it a chat. Another solid and spirited effort.

Thanks to all who participated. Let's do it again same time (noon), same day (Wednesday) next week.

If you have a question or comment that just cannot wait, drop me a note at tnoie@schurz.com" target="_blank" >tnoie@schurz.com. Take care.
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